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Races

submitted by (Avatar)Sheesh at 5:15 PM | Tagged: Uncategorized

Yea, this is a paper arguing for or against the biological existence of races. I don't particularly care if you agree or not.

A few points not in the paper, but very valid for you all.

1. There is no such thing as the "Aryan Race". At most, Aryan is a language. And the people who spoke that language are from the area that is modern day IRAQ. So if you're an Aryan, you're a fucking towelhead.

2. 94% of the diversity within the human species can be found WITHIN populations. That means that there is only 6% difference between the whitest white person, and the blackest black person. It just happens to be that that 6% is the DNA that outer physiological appearance.

The Paper


43 Comments for “Races”

Dave

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i need to see sources...im not so sure your definition of Aryan is correct

Dave

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my bad on the sources...didnt see the paper link...however, i still think your definition of Aryan is incorrect

AvatarSheesh

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Think what you want.

AvatarBigTrav

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Nice paper aashish. At times it seems to me that you are overly hung up on race and such. always pointing out the lack of differences that we all share, which i suppose would make us close to equal.

The thing is, i dont care what you consist of, i care about how you conduct yourself. If you act like an ignorant fucking yard ape, that is how i will treat you. i like to take race discrimination on a case by case basis, as i do with homosexuals. I dont like fags as a general rule, but the ones that know and like, i treat like anyone else.

now just because i feel this way does not exempt one from ridicule. I will still call my gay friends faggots and flamers and so forth, and i will make jokes about your indian heritage, just because that is the way i am.

Rob on the other hand is a biggot.

To conclude this rant, No amount of learing will ever cure stupidity. You can try to tell people we are no different, but when it comes down to it, it is what our eyes see that tells us of difference. Just because we are all human makes us no more alike than a poodle and a pit bull. they are both dogs, comprised of the same organs and tissue, but very different none the less.

Rich

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Unless I missed a day somewhere down the line, the scientific community hasn't endorsed the notion of seperate races in a long time. The most specific taxon we use is of course, the species level. A species generaly being defined as a population (or populations) capable of breeding and producing viable offspring. While physicaly two diff. species may be able to produce viable offspring, often behavoir keeps the species from mating. At the genomic level, every person on the planet is very, very similar. It only takes a few different alleles to produce a drasticly different individual.

Also, remember that we share 99% of our genetic makeup with the Chimpanze. Yet that 1% produces enormous differntiation. Lastly, Stephen J. Ghould's book, 'the Missmeasure of Man' is good reading for anyone interested in this debate (although that book pretty much put an end to any 'debate.')

Dave

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ok, say we are 96% the same or whatever...look at me and you, aashish...looking at us...we look nothing alike...you are small and frail looking, im a fat ass...but even more different is our skin color....which does (as a rule from the general publics point of view) constitute racial identity...you may not take this as fact, but the vast majority of people do...you are a dune coon...i am a honkie...the married woman i dated was a spick...my current girl friend is a sponkie (white and hispanic) if we have kids...they will be 75% white, therefore they will be honkies with a spanish back ground...you shouldnt try to twist facts into something that makes you seem different than you are...your quote about DNA bing 6% different or whatever, i can twist around and say that monkies have like a 10% difference in DNA coding...but look at a chimp and look at us...that 10% is HUGE!!!

Randeezay

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Ary·an adj.

Word History: It is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different. Its history starts with the ancient Indo-Iranians, Indo-European peoples who inhabited parts of what are now Iran, Afghanistan, and India. Their tribal self-designation was a word reconstructed as *arya- or *rya-. The first of these is the form found in Iranian, as ultimately in the name of Iran itself (from Middle Persian rn (ahr), ?(Land) of the Iranians,? from the genitive plural of r, ?Iranian?). The variant *rya- is found unchanged in Sanskrit, where it referred to the upper crust of ancient Indian society. These words became known to European scholars in the 18th century. The shifting of meaning that eventually led to the present-day sense started in the 1830s, when Friedrich Schlegel, a German scholar who was an important early Indo-Europeanist, came up with a theory that linked the Indo-Iranian words with the German word Ehre, ?honor,? and older Germanic names containing the element ario-, such as the Swiss warrior Ariovistus who was written about by Julius Caesar. Schlegel theorized that far from being just a designation of the Indo-Iranians, the word *arya- had in fact been what the Indo-Europeans called themselves, meaning something like ?the honorable people.? (This theory has since been called into question.) Thus ?Aryan? came to be synonymous with ?Indo-European,? and in this sense entered the general scholarly consciousness of the day. Not much later, it was proposed that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans had been in northern Europe. From this theory, it was but a small leap to think of the Aryans as having had a northern European physiotype. While these theories were playing themselves out, certain anti-Semitic scholars in Germany took to viewing the Jews in Germany as the main non-Aryan people because of their Semitic roots; a distinction thus arose in their minds between Jews and the ?true Aryan? Germans, a distinction that later furnished unfortunate fodder for the racial theories of the Nazis

aryanrob

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white is right

AvatarSheesh

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I just recycled this paper from a class trav. The prompt was "Argue for or against the biological existence of race".

Dave, If you want me to read what you write ever again, do not abuse elipses! And I am not "twisting" facts. If you noticed in the paper, the whole point is that you CAN'T define people into races by the way they look, because there are exceptions to every rule. For example, when I go to India, people think I'm India. In Egypt, they thought I was Egyption. In Greece, Greek. ANd most recently in Spain, Spanish.

And as far as monkey's, Humans and Chimps share 98% DNA smile That's as far as I'm going to go. I'm not going to waste time arguing with you or anyone else.

Rich: Biologically different animal species NEVER produce viable offspring. It's called the Biological Species Concept. And a species IS NOT a population. Most people do not generally use that definition. And if they do, they are stupid.

ethnicity_unkown_rob

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hahaha

Rich

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I have to disagree here. It is possible to produce a mixed species. It just doesn't happen in nature very often. A mule is of course a mix of a hourse and a donkey . Granted, all mules are sterile and therefore not "viable," they are none the less alive. Also, a species must have a population, or else it ceases to be extant.

AvatarSheesh

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Rich, are you just trying to make yourself sound like an idiot? There can be populations of a species, but a single population is not a species all by itself. It's the population is part of the species. A species is not a part of a population.

And there is no such thing as a "MIXED" species, because as you just retardedly pointed out, THEY ARE NOT VIABLE. They have to be able to reproduce and make more to be a species. All products of unions between two different species are sterile. That's how you know they aren't the same species.

And I hope you meant to write "existant" or something other than extant. Because if you meant that word, you're using it incorrectly.

Barber

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That 6% difference is inferior DNA to the whitest white, it's like a mutation.

AvatarSheesh

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Barber: Marked for terrorist attack.

Andy

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Yea, towels on top of your head are perfect places to hide bombs.

BlackRob

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aashish doesnt even shower, so there are no towels.

that accounts for his dark skin as well as his horrible smell

Mark

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Sheesh, If what you say about being misidentified is true, then those are THE DUMBEST greek and spanish people in the world. You look like a camel jockey plain and simple. I can understand people assuming you are egyptian, indian, pakastani, etc. But you are definately NOT greek or spanish.

And yes, certain races are genetically inferior. Certain races have a lower ability to learn in general, have few real survival skills, etc.

Europeans are in general more skilled and more intelligent than Africans. This is genetic. During the early times of man, Africa was proven to be plentiful in food, never freezing climate, and prety much hospitable year round. Because of this, Africans never really had to learn to grow crops, or raise animals, or build machines to help with the work.

Europeans on the other hand had to endure freezing winters, scarce food, etc. This forced them to hunt different, grow crops, build machines, strong weatherproof shelters, and the like.

Look at the world as a whole. Which races seem to have very successful countries? Africa isn't success, majority is dying from Aids, constant civil wars, and once they started kicking the white out of S. Africa, that went to hell too.

Look at most south American countries, corruption disease, starvation, filth.

Look at India, how many generations of people live in the streets? Be honest here, because I know that there are some places where for generations the families haven't had a real home. Look at the problems there now that Britian left.

Look at China, yes they are smart and hard working, but they are still starving, killing female children to prevent overpopulation, and in general abusing the workers. Hong Kong was a nice place and might still be but it's slowly going downhill.

Look at Japan, it wasn't until America stepped in after the war and helped them that they became sucessful. America and our Technology helped to build thier industry up to a certain point, then they took over on their own and surpassed us.

Now look at America. Cities that were once wealthy and very successful are now filled with poor people who are dependant on the Govt for aid. Look at these same cities and see what the population by race is and most likely it's going to have a high concentraion of some minority.

Many peole from other countries have moved to America and some flourish. Others drag America down to their level. Some people can be helped, others cannot. Seems the lighter your skin, the better your chances.

BlackRob

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The south american countries that you have spoken of being full of filth and starvation are like that because of corruption from everyone who is elected. Corruption is not a trait taht can be blamed on ethnicity. Noreaga was a CIA operative for like 8 years. during carters years as president, Noreaga made no money from trafficing drugs into the US. After Carters defeat 4 years later, he was back on the US govt. payroll. when bush got to presidency, he stopped it because it made the US and the CIA a joke because they were involved with smuggling drugs into their own country and the newspapers were capitalizing on it. kind of funny that Barbara bush or reagans wife came up with taht stupid Just say No to drugs program. It would have been more accurate of their feelings if it were Just Say No to drugs smuggled here without us making a dime first.

As for India, if india was better off before britain left, why were they booted out. Whites, British especially have been raping countries for hundreds of years. they are leeches on shitty countries. Look at china for instance. before britain had come, china wasnt doing so bad except for civil war every couple hundred years. When britain introduced opium to them it was all over. The chinese would not sell their goods for the prices that the brits would pay. The brits in return got everyone addicted to opium for a little leverage in negotiating trading. Americans did the same with the native americans with alcohol. Native americans aer more likely to become alcoholics than any other race. genetic defect? not really. Up until the time that europeons showed up to the americas, they did not have any experience with the brew and were taken advantage of because it altered their thinking. It is proven now that your ethnicity can more or less decide for you whether you will end up being an alcoholic. Irish and Native Americans are the most likely to end up on a downward spiral caused by alcoholism. One of course are white, the other, offwhite.

with all of that said,

your argument about japan is weak. We did indeed help japan, but it was not that they really needed our help. After being crushed by anyone, a countries economy will be in shambles. They surpassed us in technology because thats what they are good for. Japan wasnt waiting for the US to say, Hey there little jap, need some help putting that chip together?" it always takes a few years. it took germany 8 years to become a world power again after WWI and after WWII it took nearly 30 years and half the country was under communist rule. They eventually got their shit together and here they are now.

as much as youd like to say about all the shitty countries in the world that blacks, asians or spics inhabit, i am very confident that there is a greedy white person behind acting as a puppet master to the easily corruptable figure heads that supposedly run these counties. in reality, greedy governments are making money at the undesirables expense.

I watch the discovery civilization channel

Dave

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japan surpassed us in a technological level??? when did this happen??? this is impossible...wars drive technology, and after WW2, japan has had none...they dont have a military for shit now...we are their military...if you call having more fuel efficient cars higher up the technological ladder, you are sadly mistaken...can japan shoot missles and airplanes down from space with lasers??? can japan even say it has sent probes to the moon, let alone landed on it??? can japan say that they have a submarine with the power to destroy any given nation with the push of a button??? HELL NO!!! im not saying they are 3rd world by any stretch of the imagination, im just saying that they are technoligcally inferior to us...japans economy throughout the 80's and 90's was superior to ours...maybe this is what you meant??? japan is an overcrowded nation of perverted old japs wanting to see 6 year old girls pissing in other 6 year old girls mouths...and yes, after decimating 2 of their cities and accepting their surrender, we did give japan financial aid...after winning WW2, believe it or not, our country had a surplus...not a debt...so countries borrowed money from us...instead of watching TV, read some history books...they prove to have more non-fictional facts

AvatarSheesh

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Mark you fucking idiot. You should think before you start talking out your fucking ass. Greek people look like turks, turks look like paki's etc. And, because of the heavy Moorish population in Spain, it is entirely possible that I could be mistaken for a spaniard. The Moors invaded and ruled spain for about 800 years.

1. Survival skills are LEARNED, not genetically encoded, so if you fucking dumb white people were stupid enough to leave the warm climes, then you had to learn how to survive. This does not indicate intelligence, or lack thereof. All those skills that you mention are the product of living in a harsh clime, not intelligence. If those people hadn't migrated north, then they wouldn't have invented those things. It has nothing to do with intelligence.

2. The "Races" that seem to have "very successful countries" are the ones who had such shitty land that they needed to leave and steal other peoples lands. India isn't well off because the UK came in and raped their land. Have you ever seen the crown jewels? Half the stuff there is like the "Ruby of India" or some shit like that. And if you think that all europeans are so fucking well off, you obviously don't know much about the greek, italian or even spanish economies. Why the fuck do you think that Germany and the UK didn't want to get involved with the Euro and those loser shit economies for so long?

In china, they do not kill female fetus' because of overpopulation, rather they do that because of a cultural emphasis on men. This has NOTHING to do with intelligence, and similiarly, their genetics. And while you talk about them getting paid beans you also have to understand that in China companies also provide housing, and food, and healthcare to the employees that they pay so little. And if you want to talk shit about asian economies, you should take a look at Korea, and see how it's kicking other countries asses.

A common economic misconception is that the value of a currency (I.e. how much of another currency it can buy) gives an idea of the quality of life in said country. But what is more important is the buying power of the currency in it's own market. Example: 40-50 rupees makes 1 dollar. So each rupee is about 2.5 cents. Yet 3 rupees will buy you a 5 pack of gum, while it takes 25cents to buy a 5 pack here.

3. As for hong kong going down hill, you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about, do you? Hong Kong is a financial hub, and is actually doing quite well.

4. I just finished an international economics class. Even if the US HADN'T gave Japan some money after the war, they STILL would have become technological power that it currently is. Japan already had the infrastructure, AND the educated population necessary to make that jump.

5. In america, if we followed your reasoning, then the poorest people in america should be the indians. Right? Since india is overpopulated and poor, we must all be dumb fucks? The problem in india isn't that people are educated, or smart, but that there is no one ot employ them. The money just isn't there.

The truth of the matter is, that Indian, and other asians, and immigrant africans are 90% more likely to support themselves without the necessity of food stamps. People come to this country with 50 $ to their names and do more and get more than stupid white fuckers who were born here, and had all the opportunities.

Americans aren't pulled down by immigrants, rather immigrants are the people that support this country. Do you know what the US's current account is? IT is negative. Indicating that the US has more foreign investment and $$ in it than it sends out. A whole lot more. As I said before, people who immigrate to America don't leech. And if you want to say that American blacks are so bad, you should think about what you're saying. Look up the "Duffy Factor". The duffy factor is how the American black population is more like 30/70 European/African. So if those people suck, maybe it's the fault of stupid shitheads like you.

Finally, if it the lighter your skin the better your chances, how come there are so many fucking white people living in trailer collecting food stamps?

AvatarTrey

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Bypassing Sheesh's enormous rant Dave. I don't really think any major power is more or less technically advanced than any other major power.

Given, America has the bleeding edge in weapons of mass destruction and defense, Japan's focus in on consumer electronics, countries have specialties.

The same laser technology we use to shoot missles down may be used in a friggen CD player somewhere else, but who knows.

NextComment.

AvatarTrey

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About this thread. I only have one thing to say, why is it always the people that crack on us(white(cracker)) for being racist, the most racist themselves.

I haven't read the other posts really closely, so I dunno if it has come up yet.

So, you Nigs, Spics, Doon Coons, wops, jews or whatever need to fucking drop racism and it will probably go away. Instead of digging it up all the god damned time.

You'll never ban me, BIATCH!!!

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Hmmmmm, did anyone notice the dissapearing post?

Seems someone posted and then a little while later it wasn't there? As for the phone problems.

Read this while you can, and remember; the truth IS out there!!!!

wahahahha wooahhahahhhahahah!!!!

AvatarSheesh

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*Bump* ! I want to see what you all have to think about this.

RED Snapper

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holy stupid argument

RED Snapper

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you can be any race you want its social class that makes you who you are in the world

AvatarSheesh

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That's not the point you dim fuck.

AvatarJeffro

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10 points awarded to red snapper, shees....zero

AvatarSheesh

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As fa as social class goes snapper, I really doubt that being a "trailer park refugee" puts you anywhere near the top.

RED Snapper

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shees, im sorry but i really can't take someone who bought six packs of Zima for 10$ each from coniving seniors in high school very seriuosly.

AvatarSheesh

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That's great, but since I have never bought Zima in my entire life... I don't see how it applies.

By the way, where did you see such things happening? From the crawlspace under your trailer as you were looking for your dog?

DreStal-i-o

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anyone ever stand in the shower, cup their hands under their butthole so water gathers, and then let out a fart? Hmmm...only me i guess.

AvatarJeffro

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Sheesh is being gay, So red snapper is trailor trash, WTF, just because he's white and giving you a hard time he's trailor trash now? Oh my god, Sheesh is giving me a hard time so now he's a terriorist, because he has dark skin. get a life sheesh. pick on something else that you actually know about a person, because you just look ignorant saying shit like that.

Tonya

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This is all besides the point, no one ever said that they didn't like someone because their DNA code sequence is 6% different than theirs. I've never heard a racist say anything about biological differences, that would be too logical, racism is hate and hate has no scientific basis so whether or not there are biological differences will never matter as much as whether or not there are visual, political, or theological differences.

AvatarJeffro

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yeah, that too! Hi tonya!

Randeezay

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I hate smallpox and without science i wouldnt know about it does that count

RED Snapper

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Actually shees it was the publix parking lot, but its ok don't be ashamed, everyone used to drink that stuff.

AvatarSheesh

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I'd talk shit about RED Snapper if I knew who he was. But since he likes to make shit up, then I'll do the same.

AvatarJeffro

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I know who red snapper is and ill attest that he knows who you are and that he knows what he is talking about.

CoolMoD

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im looking for thelly simmons